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[RUGBYLIST] argentina al tri nations

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Mar 27 Feb 2007 09:46:49 CET

C'era un trafiletto anche sulla "Gazzetta", che dava per possibile la
partecipazione dei Pumas al Tri Nations già dal 2008.
Franco (TV)

2007/2/25, fede maida <fedemaida a>:
>   Secondo questi due giornali, Times e Clarin, i Pumas potrebbero andare
> già al tri nations, dipende più da loro. I Problemi erano tanti come
> pensavamo già, i viaggi, i diritti TV già divisi fino al 2011 e la
> situazione amatoriale del campionato argentino, ma tutto è sormontabile e si
> vengono in contro i quattro paesi con l'aiuto dell' IRB. Vedremo
> Ambitious Argentina poised to secure TriNations
> place Rugby's governing body has paved the way for the South Americans to
> join the southern hemisphere giants  Nick Cain
> ARGENTINA, one of world rugby's rising powers, are on the verge of being
> admitted into the TriNations, the southern hemisphere's premier tournament,
> bringing an end to decades of exclusion in which the Pumas suffered from
> lack of meaningful competition.
> The move for Argentina to become a TriNations member, playing home and
> away fixtures against New Zealand, South Africa and Australia, is part of an
> initiative to improve standards and opportunities among the so-called lesser
> nations, with a view to challenging the big unions and producing more
> potential shock results in World Cups.
> The International Rugby Board (IRB) is brokering Argentina's entry into
> the TriNations with Sanzar — South Africa, New Zealand and Australia Rugby,
> who run the TriNations and Super 14 — in the belief that it is the right
> home for a southern hemisphere nation. Mike Miller, the IRB's chief
> executive, said he hoped Argentina's admission would be achieved as soon as
> possible, even though a Sanzar broadcasting deal has four years left to run.
> "It is a complicated issue," says Miller, "but there's nothing to stop it
> happening next year if everyone wants it to. The TriNations are all agreed
> that we need to do something about Argentina and the IRB has made it clear
> that we will look at any scheme that helps to ensure that they are properly
> integrated into international rugby."
> Having taken the Pumas to sixth in the IRB rankings, including victory
> over England at Twickenham last autumn, Argentina's leading players have
> been pressing for inclusion in the RBS Six Nations, especially as most of
> them are contracted to clubs in France and England. However, logistical
> problems, not least the distance between Buenos Aires and European venues
> and fixture congestion in northern hemisphere rugby, has convinced the Six
> Nations that the admission of the Pumas is untenable.
> Argentina's incorporation into Sanzar has been given added impetus by
> dissatisfaction among southern hemisphere fans and players with the
> TriNations format, recently expanded to add an extra match between the three
> countries. Former All Black scrum-half Justin Marshall accused Sanzar of
> overkill last season and there is plenty of evidence that Argentina can pump
> new life into the tournament.
> Players such as full-back Juan-Martin Hernandez, prop Marcos Ayerza,
> scrum-half Agustin Pichot and flanker Juan Fernan-dez Lobbe are regarded as
> among the best in their positions in the world, and the growing depth of the
> Pumas was shown recently when a young touring side beat Northampton and
> Leicester.
> Gary Flowers, the Australian Rugby Union chief executive as well as
> secretary of Sanzar, admits Argentina's inclusion is possible. "All of us
> have a duty to make sure that our product is out there and fresh," he said
> after an Argentine government approach at the end of last year.
> South Africa's dislike of the existing Sanzar schedule is another factor
> in Argentina's favour. The Springboks have long considered it to be
> lopsided, requiring them to tour for a month every season, whereas their
> Australian and New Zealand opponents fly in and out of South Africa in a
> week. Having Argentina on the schedule would even up the tour commitments.
> Springbok coach Jake White is strongly in favour. "If we are honest about
> making it a global game, we must try to accommodate Argentina," he says.
> "They have shown they are competitive in every way, against us, New Zealand,
> England and the Lions. The TriNations does need something fresh."
> However, a Sanzar proposal that Argentina take up residence in South
> Africa during the tournament, to cut down on travel, smacks of the existing
> TriNations unions trying to have their cake and eat it. Flight times between
> Auckland and Buenos Aires of just over 14 hours compare favourably with 14
> hours between Sydney and Johannes-burg, while Buenos Aires is a seven-hour
> flight from Cape Town.
> The other main issue is how Argentina's involvement will affect the
> division of broadcast revenue, which is currently split equally. The IRB
> does not see this as insurmountable, according to Miller, who says funding
> is in place to "prime the pump" for professional rugby in Argentina,
> including a £5m grant from its strategic investment fund over the next four
> years.
> Ironically, the only stumbling block could be the conservative Argentine
> union, some of whose members are deeply attached to amateurism. Even an IRB
> blueprint for a South American provincial competition, including six
> Argentine sides and one each from Uruguay and Chile, which is ready for
> immediate implemen-tation, has yet to be approved.
> However, Miller says that Argentine rugby has the right to decide where it
> goes next.
> "We have money burning a hole in our pockets," he said, "and we would like
> to invest it in bringing Argentina properly into international rugby. We are
> here, ready to go, but it's up to them."
> *Argentina against the TriNations*
> *New Zealand* P13 W0 D1 L12
> *High:* 21-21 draw in Buenos Aires in 1985
> *Low:* 93-8 defeat in Wellington in 1997
> *Australia* P17 W4 D1 L12
> *High:* Winning their first meeting 24-13 in Buenos Aires in 1979
> *Low:* Losing 32-19 in the 1991 World Cup in Llanelli
> *South Africa* P11 W0 L11
> *High:* Losing 26-25 in Port Elizabeth in 2003
> *Low:* Shipping five tries in a 39-7 defeat in Buenos Aires in 2004
> **
> **
> *Los Pumas, cada vez más cerca de los grandes *
> El director ejecutivo de la Federación Internacional de Rugby<>confirmó que estudian la posibilidad de incluir al equipo argentino en el
> prestigioso torneo Tres Naciones<>,
> en el que participan Australia, Nueva Zelanda y Sudáfrica. "No hay nada que
> impida que eso ocurra el próximo año", confesó<>Mike Miller.
>  Deportes<>
>  | [image: Noticia destacada.]
> La Federación Internacional de Rugby (IRB) es el principal aliado para que
> Argentina se incorpore al prestigioso torneo Tres Naciones junto a
> Australia, Nueva Zelanda y Sudáfrica. "No hay nada que impida que eso ocurra
> el próximo año si todo el mundo quiere. Las Tres Naciones están de acuerdo
> en que tenemos que hacer algo con Argentina, y la IRB dejó claro que
> estudiaremos cualquier esquema que asegure su adecuada integración en el
> rugby internacional", cita hoy el diario británico The Times a Mike Miller,
> director ejecutivo del ente rector del rugby mundial.
> Los "Pumas" son ya sextos en el ranking mundial de la IRB, después de
> demostrar en numerosos amistosos como el triunfo ante Inglaterra en Londres
> que su rugby está al nivel de los mejores del mundo. Sin embargo, su
> integración en el Tres Naciones se vio repetidamente frenada por
> australianos, neozelandeses y sudafricanos, principalmente por motivos
> económicos, ya que el torneo tiene ya vendidos y repartidos sus derechos de
> televisión hasta 2011.
> "El dinero nos está causando un agujero en el bolsillo, y nos gustaría
> invertirlo en llevar a Argentina adecuadamente al rugby internacional.
> Estamos aquí preparados, pero depende de ellos", afirmó Miller, recordando
> que otro de los problemas a superar es el estricto *"amateurismo"* que
> defienden importantes dirigentes de la Unión Argentina de Rugby (UAR).
> Ante el bloqueo al que se ven sometidos en el Tres Naciones, Argentina
> también exploró la posibilidad de integrarse en el Seis Naciones, el torneo
> que agrupa a los seis equipos más poderosos del hemisferio norte:
> Inglaterra, Francia, Irlanda, Gales, Escocia e Italia.
> La IRB, sin embargo, parece preferir la inclusión de Los Pumas en el Tres
> Naciones. Para ello podrían contar con una inesperada ayuda en Sudáfrica por
> culpa de los desplazamientos. Durante años, los Springboks se quejaron de
> que ellos se ven obligados a estar un mes fuera de casa para disputar sus
> partidos en Australia y Nueva Zelanda o recorrer cuatro veces en un escaso
> lapso de tiempo el vuelo de 14 horas ente Oceeanía y el cono sur africano.
> Wallabies y All Blacks, en cambio, sólo necesitan una semana para
> aclimatarse y medirse a Sudáfrica.
> La incorporación de Argentina podría nivelar el conflicto de los viajes:
> Hay catorce horas entre Oceanía y Buenos Aires, y siete entre Argentina y
> Johannesburgo.
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